The Inferno

Welcome to Alora buddy

Support.

IMO, after a bit of practice, you are guaranteed to be able to use 0 supplies completing wave 1-4. I don't see the issue of starting on wave 5.

For the sake of completionist cape, skipping waves could only be available once you have at least 1 KC.

Alternatively, 40k donator starts on higher waves? 40k donator when?

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*TLDR

• You should make 1m cash + [whatever the person you killed was risking] per PK if you're a total noob to PvP content
• You can make up to 10m cash + [whatever the person you killed was risking] per PK if you strategize well, even if you killed a poor defenseless black chinchompa farmer for his 30 chins

This is not intended to be a PvP guide. If that's what you are looking for, please refer to Real Alan's in depth guide here.
I'm making this post as an update to this 2017 guide, to discuss how profitable/non profitable (you make up your own mind) PvP can be in 2024.

In this topic, we will go through an analysis of how PkP works and how profitable it is to kill PVMers with close to no risk. We will also briefly cover NHing, ditch fighting and multi luring.


1. HOW PKP WORKS

There are 2 ways in which you can earn PKP on this server.

The first is awarded for PKing someone with a minimum amount of risk (usually around 50k-100k), while risking a minimum amount yourself (around 50k-10k). The amount of PKP you get for killing another player depends on 4 factors.

• The killstreak # that you are on (the killstreak bonus starts at 5, and goes up linearly with each increasing kill
• The killstreak # of the person you killed
• If any PKP server bonus are on (usually turned on most weekends)
• If your kill happened in a wilderness hot zone (changes every couple of hours)

As a fresh account with no killstreak/server bonus, killing someone will usually yield 100-150 PKP :


As you get a higher killstreak, you will earn more PKP per kill :


Here's how much PKP you can expect to get with 400+ killstreak with weekend PKP server bonus on :


The second way is by turning archaic emblems in. Archaic emblems are tier'd 1-10, and give an increasing amount of PKP depending on tier. Here's the breakdown :

Tier 1 156k GP 76 PKP
Tier 2 260k GP 120 PKP
Tier 3 416k GP 192 PKP
Tier 4 624k GP 288 PKP
Tier 5 1.04m GP 420 PKP
Tier 6 1.82m GP 619 PKP
Tier 7 3.12m GP 846 PKP
Tier 8 4.68m GP 1382 PKP
Tier 9 7.28m GP 2304 PKP
Tier 10 10.4m GP 3072 PKP

*Numbers stolen from @Lowkey 's previous guide
* It is worth noting that these numbers are for normal accounts and ironmen, group ironmen/elite ironmen/realism get half the amount of GP and the same amount of PKP



My advice is to only hand in tier 1-3 emblems, and to upgrade the other emblems all the way up to tier 10 before handing them in. You can obtain tier 1 emblems from killing other players/your Bounty Hunter target/wilderness slayer task monsters, tier 2-6 emblems can be obtained from killing wilderness world Skotizo and tier 1-10 emblems can be obtained from bloody chests. Alternatively, you can buy emblems from the trading post/other players.
You can upgrade the emblems in your inventory by killing another player as long as your kill is eligible for PKP, or by killing wilderness Skotizo while dealing top damage.



2. SHAMELESSLY KILLING DEFENSELESS PVMERS



It's no secret that PvP content has been close to inexistent for years on Alora. This being said, the wilderness remains very profitable for PVMers and skillers alike. You can pretty consistently find people in the revenant caves, at the wilderness bosses, the mage arena, slayer caves, ressource area, shooting star spawns, etc... to name a few.

Most of your loot will look like something like this (complete trash) :


Occasionally, you will get someone with a decent amount of risk :


So, the question I get asked often is, how do I make money by killing people that risk not much more than 100k GP? The answer is by earning PKP and upgrading an emblem all the way to tier 10, then selling the emblem and buying items off the PKP shop.

*Realism PKP shop cost 30% more, and some items are not available

I will not go in depth into what items you should buy with your PKP, as prices for different items are often fluctuating. As a general rule, you can expect to get around 5k-10k GP per PKP if you buy the items worth most at the current market price.

So let's break down how much money you are expected to earn (from PKP alone, disregarding loot) :

With a complete fresh account without an emblem in inventory (total noob pker) ----- 100 PKP = 500k-1m GP per kill
With an account without killstreak, with the intention of upgrading a tier 1 emblem all the way to tier 10 ----- 100 PKP + emblem upgrade = 500k-1m GP + emblem upgrade per kill
With an account without killstreak, having successfully upgraded a tier 1 emblem all the way to tier 10 (9 kills) ----- 100 PKP + (3072 PKP/9) + (10.4m cash/9) = 3.36m - 5.57m GP per kill
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I will share my strategy and how much money I earn on average per kill : I try to farm tier 6 emblems from Skotizo (this activity is usually dominated by clans during peak time, but you can usually find it empty/safe from pkers during server down times). I upgrade these tier 6 emblems to tier 10 (only 4 kills required). I make a dedicated account for PKing only so that I can maintain a killstreak. The problem with PKing on your main account is, once you have a killstreak going, you will find it difficult to do casual wilderness activities such as wildy agility or clue scrolls, because you will be so scared of dying and losing your killstreak.

With an account with 400+ killstreak, pking on weekends bonus, upgrading a tier 6 to tier 10 (4 kills) ----- 800 PKP + (3072/4) + (10.4m/4) = 10,4m - 18.3m GP per kill.
18.3m for killing someone risking 100k, not bad!


3. NH AND DITCH FIGHTING

There is a small community of players engaging in these activities, but you can usually find fights if you look for them through yell or at edge bank.
You will also almost always find people in NH gear at wilderness supply chest (which spawn approx. every hour), although some people are just there to try to loot the chest and dip.

For max NH, you're expected to make around 100m-300m per kill, although you will probably be risking the same amount yourself


For ditch fighting, you're expected to make between 50m-100m per kill, while risking the same amount



4. MULTI LURING

*Disclaimer : make sure you follow the #rulesfor luring, as it might result in a ban if done incorrectly


Luring has always been a big part of runescape PvP and can be done similarly on Alora. I will not into the details of luring strategies, but all you need is 2-3 friends with barrage and spec weapons, sit in a multi-combat area, and wait for PKers to take the bait. People don't always fall for it, but when they do, the rewards are usually massive.



5. FINAL THOUGHTS ON ALORA PKING in 2024

Despite the very low level of PvP activity on Alora, it remains a profitable activity.
As the skill gap for someone starting to PvP can be quite high, I would suggest for anyone trying to learn to join a clan, and share your experience among teammates.
As for requirements, all it takes is some mystic robes, a few barrage runes and a DDS and you're ready to go!
Here are a few budget setups for anyone interested to begin their PvP journey :



Always remember to protect yourself at all times and to trust no one in the wilderness.

The Inferno

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These people stay hating because u never gave them any free stuff lmfao. That or they must've had their stuff cleaned.

I support this, certainly better than the alternative of just doing ;;empty 300b at a time.

On top of that, well is empty most of the time nowadays so the more incentive the better.

TOB isn't the hardest content in the game, PvP is

Also the people saying no to this suggestion don't even do duos lmao, they do 4-5 man raids with boosting service, so I don't see what the issue is here? We're not asking 3-5 man TOB to be easier

glgl ppl

No support, @Real Alan made a post about this not long ago and it was rejected, don't see what has changed in the past few updates that justifies bringing this back up

No support, just be there when chest spawns and you can prevent the person that looted chest from logging out. If you cba showing up before chest spawns you don't get to reap the rewards

If so, isn't that why we have the options to appeal an offense and to report a staff member on the forums? I don't know what the latter looks like behind the scenes, but aren't those the checks and balances to make sure staff aren't overstepping their authority?

I don't know what other checks or balances are in place, but appealing on the forums aint it.  It's like calling the police station to deal with a case of police brutality.

"I tried to get staff to do something about leeching, and when they refused, I started doing it myself" 

 

You sound like your own worst enemy here..   That is what is called GREIVING. Which IS against the rules.. You just explained that you know that it IS wrong, and doesn't/didn't make you feel okay when others do/did it..! So you decided to side with evil instead of continuing to stand against it? Come on... Thank you for showing us and reacting on this in the ways that you are. This speaks volumes about yourself. I understand the mods shouldnt have done what they did, how they did.. but they did. They are in charge of this beautiful game, NOT you. Why aren't you humble enough to know when you are in the wrong, and won't even admit it? I'm not even speaking for myself. I'm speaking for the majority of those we were Nexing with, including myself! I wish nothing but the best for you, AND others. I don't want you banned, I don't want you muted! I'm not trying to fight you on this!! I just want you to realize how you unknowingly make others feel, and that it's not okay to do what you are doing, especially when others are not okay with it! Have some decency and be mindful of OTHERS! No one deserves to get away with doing something like this.. and no one does this but you! I wonder why?

Just because what Alan did hurt your feelings doesn't make it against the rules. There's nothing wrong with leeching, staff said it themselves, Private instances exist for a reason.

This is NOT griefing, do not misinterpret the rules and make false accusations.

I can see how you don't like Alan, but please bring forth valid arguments and refrain from making personal attacks on the integrity of other players on the public forums.

 

There is NOTHING that justifies you doing this in a Mass, with boosted drop rates activated! It's a jerk move...! You are clearly taking advantage of EVERYONE who works hard to participate in the Nex events. Imagine, if all of us were to execute your elaborate selfish method for ourselves? Nex would never get done, only by a few people who would NEVER stoop to that sort of low just to get easy kill counts and item drops worth 300m-1.7b. How and why is it justified for YOU to do that, but not anybody else??? Just STOP doing it, please! I'm practically begging you....!! It's not fair, and it looks incredibly uncordial and inconsiderate of you. And for you to do it multiple times, and seeing others bothered by it, you would think that maybe you are doing something that is not okay? Everyone is putting forth their effort to get big drops! So why can't you? Because you claim you are "smarter" than everyone else??? It's incredible that others are even defending you on this!

 

 

 

You have better gear than me, and far more gp I'd assume too. There should be no excuses for this behavior. You are MORE than capable. You need to be more considerate of others! This genuinely hurts my heart. I wish you would just see that.. Instead of trolling me continuously because you don't like me for unknown and unexplained reasons. I've never done anything wrong to you!! I've only ever defended myself against you.. Anyways, I'm unblocking you. You can talk to me. I do care about you and wish you well. But I have the communities best interest in mind. And what you did was rather disrespectful to all of us in that Nex room. Please, we are ALL in this together. It's not just you... So stop taking advantage of us and the situation. It would make me feel better to see you actually participating with us in the way that was intended!

 

1. Leeching isn't against the rules

2. You must be new to nex masses since most people that aren't contending for MVP just leech/afk there after they do their 100 damage. We're not even gonna mention all the people that join on ice phase and dip right after. If you're serious about trying to get a drop you should not join masses and do instances during boost events 

This won’t get any support, people will just tell you it’s team content. Which would be fine, if more that 3 people did it. So I agree and support but it won’t gain any traction, it’s been suggested before and shot down quite hard.

I know that this has been suggested multiple times before. TOB has never been as dead as it is right now, you can maybe find one group on weekends if you try really hard. The mechanics have become a lot more complex for new players to get a hang of