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[VARlANT]

What is your suggestion?:

XP Rate by choice

Allow players to choose their xp rates in whatever game mode they wish to play. This will give players the power to play whatever game mode they want, in whatever xp rate they want, a group ironman of 40x xp rate could play with their GIM friend of 2x xp rate.

 

 

The Great Merge

Merging game modes to make sense with this change would look as followed

 

Current game modes (ignore leagues):

 

New proposed game modes:

 

 

We would essentially be dropping from new players having a choice of 9 game modes to only 6 which are actually the same 6 from OSRS (bringing us closer to osrs)

 

 

 

Q & A

•But I already chose my game mode with my locked xp, what if I want to change it?

-Sure you can change your current xp rate, but you can ONLY make it easier on yourself. This will ensure no one goes from 40x rate, gets 4.6b xp, and changes to 2x and look good on highscores.

 

•How would this work with our current highscores?
-There would be a 2nd option bar for players to pick what xp rate they want to search from (similar to below). Could also add a 'view all' option on the xp rates to compare yourself to all the players from that game mode.

 

•What about Realism? Wouldn't this mean we'd have to merge?

-Not really, we could techinically merge all realism, but we know how that creates a lot of debate. This could just be stated when choosing 2x xp rate as a normie that your eco would be separated with a double verification when making the account that that's what they're looking for.

 

•What about current restrictions? Example: classic accounts only getting half the bonus's from well and vote books as normies

-We could either remove these strange restrictions and make the rules universal for boosts, OR leave them in place, again with warnings on account creations.

 

•Is this worth the dev time and changing the game on how it's been since the start?
-I personally believe it is, a lot of players have voiced their concerns on having way too many game modes before, and considering some of the positive feedback from this suggestion https://www.alora.io...and-game-modes/ it might be other players who feel the same.

 

Although this is the point of posting suggestions is to get constructive criticism and feedback from the community, so feel free to have your voice heard below.
 

[H]

Prepare for a ramble.

If we were to add different exp modes, it would look something like this in my head:

 

Each game mode would have 3 exp modes to choose from, those being Realism(2x), Classic(8x) and Normal(40x, 15x after 99).

At the moment the big issue is that a lot of people choose not to play some game modes because of the experience rates(e.g people want to play duo iron, not gim but elite ironman is 4x exp rate and so on). By giving players these options, it should hopefully allow players to try new accounts and stuff.

 

Lets say this was to happen, current accounts would log in and they would have to choose what game mode would they like to lock into between classic and normal(because it would be unfair to realism accs etc). If you were a 6x exp rate GIM and you chose Classic rate(8x), you would get the bonus experience added to your account(kinda similar to the npc OSRS added that gave you free experience if you did quests before they buffed quest exp rewards). I'm pretty sure that's possible, but I'm not 100% sure.

Now, I haven't thought about anything else in regards to this, such as switching to different experience rates, what will highscores look like, how to differentiate different exp rates and such. This is just a quick ramble of what is in my head right now.

 

If this is something players would like to see, it would definitely have to be polled and everything would have to be covered. Omicron would also have to let us know if its actually possible obviously, and if its a big job or not.

Personally speaking I'd love to see this because I would for sure try out different game modes that I haven't yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if people wouldn't want this change. I'm sure it would benefit Alora a lot though.

 

NORMAL MODES

Realism(2x)

Classic(8x)

Normal(40x, 15x post 99)

 

IRONMAN

Realism Ironman(2x)

Classic Ironman(8x)

Normal Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

ULTIMATE IRONMAN

Realism Ultimate Ironman(2x)

Classic Ultimate Ironman(8x)

Normal Ultimate Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

HARDCORE IRONMAN

Realism Hardcore Ironman(2x)

Classic Hardcore Ironman(8x)

Normal Hardcore Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

ELITE IRONMAN

Realism Elite Ironman(2x)

Classic Elite Ironman(8x)

Normal Elite Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

GROUP IRONMAN

Realism Group Ironman(2x)

Classic Group Ironman(8x)

Normal Group Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

GROUP HARDCORE IRONMAN

Realism Group Hardcore Ironman(2x)

Classic Group Hardcore Ironman(8x)

Normal Group Hardcore Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

[VARlANT]

@H First I’d like to thank you for taking this suggestion seriously and typing as much as you did.

I like your idea but maybe give us 4 options? 2x to 8x feels like a large gap, maybe we could throw in a 5x to be right in the middle. This would also make it so if it isn’t possible to reimburse lost xp, the hit wouldn’t be as hard for current 4x and 6x accounts.

As for highscores i think the drop down option I mentioned would work pretty well, unless you see any flaws it could have?

I think if this were to happen the current normal accounts should not be able to choose a lower xp rate, mainly due to we’d have a lot of false 4.6b “classic” accounts.

I do think this is how it should’ve been planned out from the start, of course starting Omicron probably didn’t expect to have so many game modes so no fault to him. But it’s never too late to correct course, the player base will grow accustomed to this change and learn to live with it.

[Ruwk]

I would REALLY like to see a small variety of experience rates available for each game mode.

But, EIM shouldn't merge with normal ironman as they have already established partners.

In regards to the boosts, I think every XP mode should have 100% of the boosts so it's a lot less confusing. But, those who choose 2x should only receive half of every XP boost in game (and not just some).

Also, I personally would vote to just merge realism, though that should definitely be polled entirely separate.

Lastly, if this were to happen, I think people should be able to choose to lower XP mode if they want. For instance, if you're an EIM (4x XP) you can choose 2x XP. Upon choosing this, all of your experience would be divided by two. It's simple math and should be entirely possible.

@H First I’d like to thank you for taking this suggestion seriously and typing as much as you did.

I like your idea but maybe give us 4 options? 2x to 8x feels like a large gap, maybe we could throw in a 5x to be right in the middle. This would also make it so if it isn’t possible to reimburse lost xp, the hit wouldn’t be as hard for current 4x and 6x accounts.

As for highscores i think the drop down option I mentioned would work pretty well, unless you see any flaws it could have?

I think if this were to happen the current normal accounts should not be able to choose a lower xp rate, mainly due to we’d have a lot of false 4.6b “classic” accounts.

I do think this is how it should’ve been planned out from the start, of course starting Omicron probably didn’t expect to have so many game modes so no fault to him. But it’s never too late to correct course, the player base will grow accustomed to this change and learn to live with it.

I think that 4 options would be too many. When you say 2x and 8x seems like too much of a gap, keep in mind that 8x and 40x is an even bigger gap. If anything, I think the experience rates could be 3x, 10x, and 40x. I have a feeling that FAR more people would play realism if it were 3x as opposed to 2x. And they should want more people to play their game mode to help their economy.

Also, I'd like to thank @h as well for his thorough input.

[VARlANT]

I would REALLY like to see a small variety of experience rates available for each game mode.

But, EIM shouldn't merge with normal ironman as they have already established partners.

EIM would essentially merge with GIM, no tradable ironman game mode would merge with normal ironman for integrity reasons.

In regards to the boosts, I think every XP mode should have 100% of the boosts so it's a lot less confusing. But, those who choose 2x should only receive half of every XP boost in game (and not just some).

I personally don't agree, mainly because I don't know if it's possible, and even at 2x xp rate with xp getting halved, they received all the benefits of speeding skills prior so if they have 30m xp and it was halved to 15m xp, they still got 1-99 without the true struggle of 2x xp.
-EDIT- I see I misquoted the wrong part in this response, on mobile so this edit will have to do, I meant to respond to the part where players should be allowed to pick a lower xp rate, and halve their current xp for the original response I gave

I think that 4 options would be too many. When you say 2x and 8x seems like too much of a gap, keep in mind that 8x and 40x is an even bigger gap. If anything, I think the experience rates could be 3x, 10x, and 40x. I have a feeling that FAR more people would play realism if it were 3x as opposed to 2x. And they should want more people to play their game mode to help their economy.

I think 4 options is just enough imo because I've personally played all 4 options and know that there is a significant difference from 2x to 8x, but 40x is not a lot when post 99's are 15x and most players going to a new RSPS are looking for something that's 40x and 15x, but 8x being the next grind would be a nice introduction to those who want to challenge themselves more, but I respect all your feedback and opinions thank you.

[Bigboxbob]

Like the idea, it's a great one but highly unlikely since it would be so much work for omi , doubt that he will even concider it.

[Mhu]

Prepare for a ramble.

If we were to add different exp modes, it would look something like this in my head:

 

Each game mode would have 3 exp modes to choose from, those being Realism(2x), Classic(8x) and Normal(40x, 15x after 99).

At the moment the big issue is that a lot of people choose not to play some game modes because of the experience rates(e.g people want to play duo iron, not gim but elite ironman is 4x exp rate and so on). By giving players these options, it should hopefully allow players to try new accounts and stuff.

 

Lets say this was to happen, current accounts would log in and they would have to choose what game mode would they like to lock into between classic and normal(because it would be unfair to realism accs etc). If you were a 6x exp rate GIM and you chose Classic rate(8x), you would get the bonus experience added to your account(kinda similar to the npc OSRS added that gave you free experience if you did quests before they buffed quest exp rewards). I'm pretty sure that's possible, but I'm not 100% sure.

Now, I haven't thought about anything else in regards to this, such as switching to different experience rates, what will highscores look like, how to differentiate different exp rates and such. This is just a quick ramble of what is in my head right now.

 

If this is something players would like to see, it would definitely have to be polled and everything would have to be covered. Omicron would also have to let us know if its actually possible obviously, and if its a big job or not.

Personally speaking I'd love to see this because I would for sure try out different game modes that I haven't yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if people wouldn't want this change. I'm sure it would benefit Alora a lot though.

 

NORMAL MODES

Realism(2x)

Classic(8x)

Normal(40x, 15x post 99)

 

IRONMAN

Realism Ironman(2x)

Classic Ironman(8x)

Normal Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

ULTIMATE IRONMAN

Realism Ultimate Ironman(2x)

Classic Ultimate Ironman(8x)

Normal Ultimate Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

HARDCORE IRONMAN

Realism Hardcore Ironman(2x)

Classic Hardcore Ironman(8x)

Normal Hardcore Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

ELITE IRONMAN

Realism Elite Ironman(2x)

Classic Elite Ironman(8x)

Normal Elite Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

GROUP IRONMAN

Realism Group Ironman(2x)

Classic Group Ironman(8x)

Normal Group Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

 

GROUP HARDCORE IRONMAN

Realism Group Hardcore Ironman(2x)

Classic Group Hardcore Ironman(8x)

Normal Group Hardcore Ironman(40x, 15x post 99)

Yess @H, this is what I was expecting in ironman changes, personally I would like to play same Ironman just with lower exp rates, not the normie ones.

[Defiler]

As a solo eim since d1 EIM release i personally only picked the gamemode due to the exp rate. I support anything that involves a standard solo ironman being low exp rate. 

[Real Alan]

You're welcome to make a 2x xp game mode on normie eco or ironman, but ruck off.

Don't touch the existing realism eco.  We were separate from the start, so leave us be.  

FAR more people would play realism if it were 3x as opposed to 2x. And they should want more people to play their game mode to help their economy.

 

 

Not true.  We want to play a game where the xp rate matches the game content.  

All the variety in skilling comes between levels 1-99.  From 99 to 200m, it's just rinse and repeat the META.  

Play a game mode where the xp rate is too high -> you level up so fast you're basically running a marathon in a car.

You get to your destination fast, but you miss out on the challenge, fun, and achievement of the journey.  (Like thieving lizardman chest, exploring less popular agility courses, blackjacking, giants foundry, hunter rumours etc)

Play a game mode where the xp rate is too low -> you run the risk of getting bored 

 

Realism right now is at a nice balance.

If you set your goal on unlocking untradeable like skilling outfits, you'll usually get to around level 80-90 skills.

From level 99-200m, its mostly rinse and repeat but there's a catch.

You can't just buy your way through by trading an NPC for skilling supplies like you can on Normie.

You're faced with a challenge to gather loads of supplies–something you'll need to work with your team of realism homies to accomplish.  That's what keeps this game mode fun.

Besides playing 3x is just like playing 2x realism on a vote book skilling bonus.