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Posted 30 March 2022 - 03:21 PM #1

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What is your suggestion?:


OSRS has just announced Nex drop rates have been lowered back to 1/43 as the boss has become more of a grind than they intended. We have also had issues with the boss becoming less and less popular because of how grindy it is. I suggest we update the drop rates as Jagex did.


Is this in OSRS?: Yes


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How would this benefit Alora?:


Nex would be more popular & be more like OSRS.



**EDIT: Apparently Alora's rates weren't updated along with the OSRS change from 1/43 to 1/53 to begin with :P Forum staff can close :)**

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Posted 30 March 2022 - 03:22 PM #2

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Support, its in osrs why not bring it to alora


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Posted 30 March 2022 - 03:23 PM #3

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huge support


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Posted 30 March 2022 - 03:57 PM #4

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Support. Quite often I want to do Nex, however I can never find many interested in doing it.

I feel lowering the rates to what OSRS now has would make it a lot more active.

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Posted 30 March 2022 - 04:40 PM #5

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Bro... nex drop rates are already 1/43 on Alora

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Posted 30 March 2022 - 05:26 PM #6

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See tldr at the bottom.

 

At the moment Alora drops are 25% more common than 07 (I think) which is fine for most Alora content, but IMO it would be beneficial to make Nex (and maybe even Nightmare) drops slightly more common to make the content not dead. If we take a look at the individual drops of both the Nex and Nightmare;

 

Nex

Torva Set - Best strength armour in the game. However, there are not many players that are willing to spend over 1b per piece for slightly more strength bonus.

Ancient Godsword - Only viable in PvP situations (Pvp on Alora is pretty dead, making the godsword dead content considering there are 10 pkers on Alora).

Zaryte Crossbow - Good at "some" bosses such as Nex and it's good in specific situations such as speed running.

Zaryte Vambraces - Best in slot gloves for range, fair enough.

 

Nightmare

Inquisitor Set + Mace - Pretty useless set when you can buy a bandos set for 1/40th of the cost and it'll do nearly the same job for you. Sure, it has some niche uses such as the crush bonus for speccing.

Harmonised Staff - Pretty shit staff when the Sang offers better dps and healing, while costing 1/10th of the price.

Volatile Staff - Only viable in PvP situations (Pvp on Alora is pretty dead, making the staff dead content considering there are 10 pkers on Alora).

Eldritch Staff - Lol.

 

So as we can see from that list, Nightmare is pretty pointless to kill unless going for the collection log, while on the other hand sure, Nex has some good drops such as the torva set and zaryte vambs, but the issue with that is a 4 man Nex kill takes 5 minutes and if you're not in a clan then good luck finding 3 other people to kill Nex with you AND, from most people I've asked it takes a considerable amount of time to get a unique in your name at Nex anyway. My suggestion would be to make the uniques at both Nex and Nightmare slightly more common AND/OR buff inquisitor armour/weapon and buff the Harmonised Staff.

 

Tldr; Half the drops at Nex and Nightmare have niche uses or are dead content, make the uniques at Nightmare and Nex more common.


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Posted 30 March 2022 - 10:12 PM #7

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See OP edit at bottom, became aware shortly after posting that rates were 1/43.

Alora's nex released after the original OSRS change from 1/43 to 1/53 and I may be mistaken but I've heard 1/53 referenced multiple times. That's why I posted today after noticing OSRS changes.

As @5 explained in detail and others have expressed similarly, the drop rates do seem fairly difficult for both how grind the content is and how underwhelming the rewards are.

It may be worth having the discussion about either lowering rates again as @5 recommended or much more frequent bonuses.

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Posted 31 March 2022 - 08:53 AM #8

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Def need a change as @5 stated.
Nex finna turn into the new zalcano where it’s only killed during mass events.

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Posted 01 April 2022 - 09:42 AM #9

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massive support, nex has been omega dead 


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Posted 01 April 2022 - 10:56 AM #10

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No support because:

 

1. I really dont think we should make same mistake again by boosting loot of end game content significantly. 

People farmed phosani nightmare as fuck when those items werent even worth getting. And result was items went from 4b a set to 1.2b for a set, (even vola orb is only like 700m now)

Thus nobody even wants to farm it anymore (I used to camp it 4 man with the boys chilling in vc and trolling, people dont do that anymore cus even if you get a drop its not worth it)

 

2. If you do small groups, you see a drop quite often. (I  saw 13 drops during in  450ish kc(2 in my name keep in mind this was at release when teams were 8 man+)) (In 4 mans you get a drop every 15 hours and should see one in your team every 4 hours) Based on 4-man times with 4x tbows/bowfas which makes it the most lucrative boss in game at the moment. 

 

3. Now that we finally have endgame gear that holds some value because not everyone enjoys that type of boss. Lets not do same that happend with the release of the phosani rates for uniques.

 

4. Keep in mind we dont have the same kind of market as osrs. Eco is already in a bad enough shape. I really dont think we should make endgame grinds even easier. 

 

5. And if they really want a loot boost . I rather see the runes/dragon bolts/gp drops and so on being buffed. As it'll make boss more lucrative/intresting for most modes. Without completely tanking the unique prices.



Posted 01 April 2022 - 12:33 PM #11

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We'll increase the rate from 1/43 to 1/35 to match the changes made by OSRS (with the 1.23x multiplier), but we won't manually increase it further, as some comments have suggested.


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