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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:03 PM #1

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Hello,

 

Before starting please, check the topic of Fiji Drip here.

The topic is still available within the suggestions but locked, tho no final statement has been given. (yet)

 

This is my attempt to revive/speed-up the suggestions related to the current harpoons in-game.

 

What is your suggestion?:
Make the current harpoons in-game match the same effects of catch rate and special attacks as in OSRS.
 
  • Dragon_harpoon.png?a09d3 The dragon harpoon is a wieldable harpoon that requires 61 Fishing to use and 60 Attack to wield, however the player cannot activate the special attack without wielding it.
    • It gives the player a 20% faster catch rate compared to the regular harpoon.
    • The dragon harpoon has a special attack, Fishstabber, that provides a visible +3 boost to Fishing. This consumes 100% of the player's special attack energy, though it cannot be used without the 60 Attack required to wield the harpoon.
  • Infernal_harpoon.png?241d4 The infernal harpoon, unboosted requirement of 75 fish and 85 cooking to create it with a smouldering stone.
    • 1/3 chance to cook your catch. 
    • Same spec and catch rate as the regular variant.
  • Crystal_harpoon.png?41819 The crystal harpoon is an item used in Fishing. It requires 71 Fishing and Song of the Elves to create and use, with 50 Agility and 70 Attack required to wield it.
    • It possesses the same special attack as the dragon harpoon.
    • Has a 35% faster catch rate compared to a regular harpoon and 12.5% faster compared to dragon harpoon.
    • Players can create a crystal harpoon via a singing bowl by combining a dragon harpoon, 120 crystal shards and a crystal tool seed. Doing so requires level 76 Smithing and Crafting to sing the crystal (the levels can be boosted)

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OSRS Wiki

 

Is this in OSRS?:
Yes
 
Has this suggestion been accepted already?:
No, from what I could find the last harpoon update was during the update: [19/12/19] Christmas Giveaways, Sales, Events & more!
Quality of Life: Added harpoon/cage fishing spot to Piscarilius in Zeah
 
How would this benefit Alora?:
All other dragon/crystal equipment has it's special attack other than the harpoon.
Certain game modes may benefit greatly from the temporary +3 fishing boost.
With that being said...the increased catch rates of the dragon and crystal one will be in favor for all game modes.
 
With the release of nightmare of Ashihama and much other content which would be far more exciting for implementation, I still think it would be a nice QOL for the near future.
Feel free to correct any mistakes/add missing content made in this topic, only human after all.
 
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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:19 PM #2

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I fully support this as someone who's currently going for 200m fishing any buff would be nice considering this is already in OSRS.


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:35 PM #3

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Support given that it works like that in OSRS.

 

One thing I don't understand is you state the crystal harpoon gives 35% boost over a regular harpoon but only a 12.5% over dragon harpoon. 

At the same time, you state the dragon harpoon gives a 20% boost over the regular harpoon. Shouldn't the crystal harpoon then be 15% more than the dragon or am I missing something?


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:46 PM #4

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Support given that it works like that in OSRS.

 

One thing I don't understand is you state the crystal harpoon gives 35% boost over a regular harpoon but only a 12.5% over dragon harpoon. 

At the same time, you state the dragon harpoon gives a 20% boost over the regular harpoon. Shouldn't the crystal harpoon then be 15% more than the dragon or am I missing something?

 

I agree it looks strange but it's really how the wiki states.

Suppose it has to do with maintaining a balance between the two. Besides, even the 12.5% boost would perhaps seem a bit overkill considering we don't use charges for many items on Alora like OSRS does and stuff does not really degrade. With that being said, not my cup of tea tbh. I'll leave that topic open for the dev's.  :P



Posted 11 February 2020 - 06:14 PM #5

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I have 200m So i should be NO support  But im a nice guy and this sounds like a good update Support big time 


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 06:23 PM #6

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 07:26 PM #7

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Support It should def be in game.



Posted 11 February 2020 - 11:32 PM #8

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100% support on this.


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 11:51 PM #9

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Makes sense as it's in OSRS already. Support.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 09:33 AM #10

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Support given that it works like that in OSRS.

 

One thing I don't understand is you state the crystal harpoon gives 35% boost over a regular harpoon but only a 12.5% over dragon harpoon. 

At the same time, you state the dragon harpoon gives a 20% boost over the regular harpoon. Shouldn't the crystal harpoon then be 15% more than the dragon or am I missing something?

 

Its just strange wording.  Say the original 'rate' of reg harpoon is 100. Then a 20% boost for d harpoon is 100*1.2 = 120. If the crystal harpoon is 12.5% more than a d harpoon then its 120 * 1.125 = 135. This is the same as 100*1.35 = 135. 

 

As for the original suggestion I support it due to it being a feature of osrs.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:25 PM #11

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I am 110% on board with these changes, currently using crystal tool seeds is only for looks, would be great to have a boosted version. support!


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 06:07 PM #12

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Support, would be nice to have. I think I've never seen anybody fish with a crystal harpoon before.


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Posted 18 February 2020 - 07:01 AM #13

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Make harpoons more efficient before I start this 200M grind myself. :P
 


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Fishing is already far, far faster than it is on OSRS, so I wouldn't be willing to speed it up by another 30% for some harpoons unless the fishing speed overall took a hit. This of course would be a controversial change which may have to be polled in the future.



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