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[EIM Django]

What is your suggestion?:

 

Apply a fix to the current TzTok-Jad task in the Extreme slayer tasks.

 

Is this in OSRS?:

 

Yes.

 

Has this suggestion been accepted already?:

 

No

 

How would this benefit Alora?:

 

Currently doing a TzTok-Jad task gives you only the experience for the HP of Jad (250HP) which translates to 1,000 Slayer xp for doing the entirety of the fight caves.  Currently the Slayer helm does not work against the lower levels along the way, nor do you receive slayer experience for killing those either. 

 

In OSRS doing a Jad task offers a reward of 25,250 for killing Jad plus slayer experience for each lower level killed along the way as well.  Fixing these issues would make doing Jad tasks worthwhile, as of right now they are pointless and merely there for us to block and waste slayer points on.

[7ashkal]

fully support, that's why i don't do jad tasks, shit xp.

[Chromecast]

5000% support. The sole reason I have the Jad task blocked at the moment.

[MT]

Support, would give players an incentive to do Jad tasks for sure.

[Vuqe]

This would give players a reason to actually do a Jad task. Support 

[Detharrow26]

This is actually a pretty significant draw back for slayer and should be fixed/changed asap, support!

[Zach McCoy]

Definitely support, it will give a lot of players a reason to want to do the fight caves as a task if the xp is where it should be.

[Syms]

Support this, makes sense for it to be working as it should be :)

[Sheep]

Support, one of the reasons I don’t really do jad tasks anymore.

[Degu]

Support, was upset when I found out Jad doesn't work like it does on ours!

[Iron Tuskan]

Support. Make Jad Worth it Again!

[Noj]

Support, pretty sure the Inferno is like this as well and could use the same fix.

[C O C K]

Yes!!!!! You get no supplies from killing jad. The xp would make it 20000% more worth! SUPPORT.

[Fluxd]

support 100%

[Fire Emblem]

so much support for this, I get it, fight caves is easier on here but the xp should still be fixed

[Sayso]

I support this, especially if slayer helm works on the lower levels too.

[Sololite]

Long post incoming. TL;DR:

Jad task on Alora would give 348.450 xp an hour for an EIM. Compared to hellhounds (166.483,2 xp an hour) that's way too much. Suggested: change xp rates so EIM's would get 207.000 xp an hour (15k xp non multiplied for jad task).

 

Moving on to the long post:

I felt like giving the jad full XP might be overpowered, so I ran some numbers:

 

I'm going to compare the xp rates of a jad task to a hellhounds task (I assume this is one of the best regular tasks for xp/hour). All calculations were done on an account with max combat. I don't take into account how long it takes to get a certain task from a slayer master (by canceling tasks until you get the right one). Both tasks are executed with complete focus on the game (meaning minimal 'downtime' between kills). The numbers that I use will be based off EIM xp rates as that's the account type that I used for these tests.

 

Gear for jad task:

Elite void + max ranged gear + blowpipe + rigour + ranged pot 

 

Gear for hellhound task:

Tentacle whip + max melee gear + piety + super combat pot (no cannon)

 

- With the above mentioned gear and execution, I'm able to kill 312 hellhounds per hour in Nieves cave.

- Jad tasks with the above mentioned gear and execution can easily be completed under 20 minutes (as a super donator starting at wave 41, my pb with this gear is 16:27). For convenience's sake we'll assume that a task takes 20 minutes on average.

 

This effectively gives the following xp rates (with the well active, but no other bxp on):

Hellhounds: 312*116*4,6= 166.483,2 xp an hour

Jad task: 25250*(60/20)*4,6= 348.450 xp an hour

 

As you can see, there's a big difference between these two. The Jad task is already one of the better tasks on OSRS for xp, but with donators starting at wave 31/41 xp rates become way better on Alora.

 

With this in mind, I would suggest giving about 15k (non multiplied) xp for completing the Jad task. On an EIM this would result in an XP rate of:

15000*(60/20)*4,6= 207.000 xp an hour.

 

This would still make the jad task one of the best tasks to complete (like it is on OSRS), but not crazy overpowered xp wise on Alora.

[Chuckoramma1]

I Support this i went for jad pet and getting it as a task was almost pointless as it took longer to get the task than i would be to do others and you would get the same xp

[swagy]

100% support as in osrs Jad is looked at as good chunk of xp and in Aloria its not worth atm.

[Qodl]

I see almost universal support for this suggestion, however, i think there needs to be some changes to jad before this can be implemented.

 

Slayer is currently one of the most prestigious 99s you can achieve in game, and i fear without some tweaks and fixes to jad, this would turn slayer into another trivial skill. With the combination of task skips, no healers and starting wave, this would give insane exp rates that devalue the skill. 

 

I support this as long as the appropriate checks and balances are made.