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[The Inferno]

What is your suggestion?: Make TOB possible to consistently solo

Is this in OSRS?: no

Has this suggestion been accepted already?: no

How would this benefit Alora?: make TOB more accessible

 

Currently TOB is close to dead content, takes forever to find a team and poorly accessible to new players due to the learning curve with new mechanics.

Soloing TOB is very inconsistent mainly due to Nylo room spawns which are RNG based.

Maybe rework the solo TOB algorithm to make it more consistently soloable?

[Lucas]

No support, it's not solo content.

[RNG Bitch]

This won’t get any support, people will just tell you it’s team content. Which would be fine, if more that 3 people did it. So I agree and support but it won’t gain any traction, it’s been suggested before and shot down quite hard.

[11]

No support.

 

It's group content, it's also a challenge meant to reward those who can solo it.  From personal experience it would devalue the experience, though I am biased.

[The Inferno]

This won’t get any support, people will just tell you it’s team content. Which would be fine, if more that 3 people did it. So I agree and support but it won’t gain any traction, it’s been suggested before and shot down quite hard.

I know that this has been suggested multiple times before. TOB has never been as dead as it is right now, you can maybe find one group on weekends if you try really hard. The mechanics have become a lot more complex for new players to get a hang of

[Real Alan]

"Soloing TOB is very inconsistent mainly due to Nylo room spawns which are RNG based."

 

It might not be as much RNG as you think.  If the room only allows for X NPCs to spawn, you may be able to control the pace of the Nylo spawns by leaving X-1 nylos of the same type (which you pray against).  This way you are only getting 1 new randomly spawned nylo at a time.  

 

Also, I haven't had a chance to try out the new TOB mechanics yet, so my apologies if this no longer works any more.  

 

Here's a side thought...

Since there are so many new TOB mechanics (and ways for players to fail), I think it would be fitting to also imrpove the TOB drop rates...

Just the standard OSRS -> Alora buff (similar to how Nex rates were buffed on Alora)

 

Currently, the TOB drop rates are notoriously bad. 

 

Out of 600 completions -> ~300 hours of playtime (not including failed attempts) -> 12.5 days of playtime -> how many TOB weapon drops did I get?  2 sangs

That's with extra rolls/drop boost from Uber and switching over to hard mode on release.  

 

By the way, hard mode doesn't even improve the rates of TOB weapons.  

Take a look at the drop breakdown. 

 

On both regular and hard mode, scythe is 1/19 while staff/rapier are 2/19.

The main difference is... the rate of avernic hilts goes down from 8/19 to 5/19, while each justiciar piece goes up from 2/19 to 3/19.

 

Note - the rate of purps is slightly higher 9.1 -> 7.7... meaning you'll be able to spin the wheel more often if you do HM.

That's where I think the drop rate should be OSRS to Alora adjusted.  

 

By the way, for those of you that complain buffing drop rates ruins ecos... blah blah blah.

From September 2022 - end of 2022, we had 18 TOB drops enter the game through ultimate mystery boxes.

Check it out for yourselves.  A good chunk of TOB weapons in the normie economy are spawned into the game from boxes.

Improving the TOB weapon rates from the legitimate game source isn't going to be bad for the game... any more than spawning them from boxes.

 

Regular TOB

1/9.1 to land on unique table (0 deaths)

 

Regular TOB unique table

1scythe

2rapier

3rapier

4staff

5staff

6helm

7helm

8body

9body

10leg

11leg

12hilt

13hilt

14hilt

15hilt

16hilt

17hilt

18hilt

19hilt

 

Hard TOB

1/7.7 to land on unique table (0 deaths)

 

Hard TOB unique table

1scythe

2rapier

3rapier

4staff

5staff

6helm

7helm

8helm

9body

10body

11body

12leg

13leg

14leg

15hilt

16hilt

17hilt

18hilt

19hilt

[1]

I agree rates should be buffed, I haven't tried the new mechanics yet so can't comment on those. Just buff ToB's unique drop table rate by about 25% like we did with Nex.

 

Reasons:

- I don't think it should take 500+ KC to get a weapon drop (which is the case for a lot of players). After all this is a RSPS and is supposed to be a more fast paced version of the real thing.

- Can't think of any reasons not to - esp. considering what @Real Alan said about the intro of ToB items to the economy via boxes vs via the raid itself.

- ToB is pretty much dead content as the OP said, takes forever to even find a team to raid with.

- Nex/CoX/Gauntlet/ToA all have much better buffs to the unique drop table and aren't as tedious.

 

In terms of making it easier to solo: I can't think of a reason why not. Who cares if it's "supposed to be for teams". The situation is different here because there aren't really any teams left.

[Issh]

I remember how hard it was for me to get a team to do the 5 ToB clears for the diary (me being a 0kc noob may have been some of the issue but that's beside the point). I'm relatively new to ToB but ever since the new update, I see how people struggle to get teams to ToB and how it's generally termed as dead content. Making it easier to solo (easier than it currently is and NOT easy mode) would encourage more players to give it a go and get phased out of the "dead content" zone.

[Lucas]

I agree rates should be buffed, I haven't tried the new mechanics yet so can't comment on those. Just buff ToB's unique drop table rate by about 25% like we did with Nex.

 

 

Differences aside on the actual topic, this I'd love to support.

[Mufasa]

I don't think tob should be soloable content, or mainly solo content cause we all know what will happen when it's made soloable consistantly, but I can support a droprate buff to tob it's been long overdue being one of the many with 350kc + and no weapon on an iron is mindblowing is still an rsps.