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Posted 28 November 2019 - 05:15 PM #1

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Heyo,

 

Edit- I am aware of and super appreciative of everything both Omi and all the staff in general to improve Alora, not just pvp-wise, but in general.

 

I’m making this post just because I haven’t really seen one like it. The purpose of this is to hopefully start a discussion about potential ways to increase activity in the wilderness. I’ve seen this as a popular topic in the “Suggestions” page, but often, there isn’t discussion occurring, it’s mostly just people saying ‘support’ or ‘no support’ in response to others ideas.

I personally think that the game is a lot more fun when the wild is active, and that the uncertain feeling of being in the unpredictable wilderness is something that can’t be replicated anywhere else in the game. More people in the wilderness obviously widens the PvP scene, which could up an entirely new aspect of the game to many Alorians, as unquestionably, the large majority of Alora players are strictly PvMers.

The larger PvP scene would also bring more players to Alora:
Pretty much all RSPSs are either PvM OR PvP based, which obviously doesn’t fully capture the everything available in OSRS. An RSPS where both the PvM scene AND PvP scene are active would appeal to ALL types of players looking for an RSPS.

Some of my ideas / Ideas I’ve seen from others:
>Add benefits to the bounty system/pkp shop
>More frequent PvP-based events
>Add really rare, valuable drops to wilderness bosses (PvP weapons/armor, a roll on the bloody chest drop table, etc) - EDIT - already a feature, sorry.
>Add additional skilling options in the wild, not necessarily in OSRS


Please feel free to share any ideas you have, regardless of how ‘controversial.’ Also feel free to share your opinions on how important/unimportant an active wild is to you. Also please Scroll down and read the responses already posted to avoid repeating what others have already said.

Try to be respectful of others ideas and opinions, and respond to them constructively. If someone responds to you just trying to flame bait, I encourage you to simply not respond.

Note - I wrote this on my phone which is why there isn’t any formatted text. Also apologies for typos.


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Posted 28 November 2019 - 05:50 PM #2

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  • There are regular PVP events on Alora with Forum Awards and in-game prizes added as incentives to participate. The styles of PK also rotate so that it's not the same tournament every week.
  • You can currently obtain Ancient weapons and armor from any NPC in the wilderness over 50 combat, so this applies to all existing wilderness bosses. You can also obtain Ancient armor/weapons from the Wilderness Supply chest which spawns periodically. This chest was also an effort to promote PVP.
  • There's huge incentive to skill within the wilderness as you receive a 25% EXP boost after being in the wilderness for over 2 minutes. This is especially useful because it's stackable with all other bonuses (Well of Goodwill, BXP, Event God bonus, Vote Books). 

I listed the above in response to your points to highlight that efforts have been made in the past to cater toward creating a more active PVP scene. I just don't think the PK scene is what it was back in the day. There's definitely less PKers in today's RS community and most rookie pkers trying to get into the scene have to bridge an enormous gap in skill which takes months-years to breach, and I wager that a large portion of them would burn out before they ever even reach that point. There are even PK dedicated private servers that focus all their efforts on PVP yet have never seen numbers anywhere close to what Alora had at its peak, even now these servers sit in 5-10th place on toplists with the most prominent servers being ECO/Ironman/Gambling based. Will be interesting to hear other player opinions on this topic.


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Posted 28 November 2019 - 06:27 PM #3

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  • There are regular PVP events on Alora with Forum Awards and in-game prizes added as incentives to participate. The styles of PK also rotate so that it's not the same tournament every week.
  • You can currently obtain Ancient weapons and armor from any NPC in the wilderness over 50 combat, so this applies to all existing wilderness bosses. You can also obtain Ancient armor/weapons from the Wilderness Supply chest which spawns periodically. This chest was also an effort to promote PVP.
  • There's huge incentive to skill within the wilderness as you receive a 25% EXP boost after being in the wilderness for over 2 minutes. This is especially useful because it's stackable with all other bonuses (Well of Goodwill, BXP, Event God bonus, Vote Books). 
I listed the above in response to your points to highlight that efforts have been made in the past to cater toward creating a more active PVP scene. I just don't think the PK scene is what it was back in the day. There's definitely less PKers in today's RS community and most rookie pkers trying to get into the scene have to bridge an enormous gap in skill which takes months-years to breach, and I wager that a large portion of them would burn out before they ever even reach that point. There are even PK dedicated private servers that focus all their efforts on PVP yet have never seen numbers anywhere close to what Alora had at its peak, even now these servers sit in 5-10th place on toplists with the most prominent servers being ECO/Ironman/Gambling based. Will be interesting to hear other player opinions on this topic.

1. I should have prefaced this post with this: I’m totally aware that there have already been changes and additions made to try to increase wildly activity, and in no way am I trying to criticize Alora or the staff for (what I see to be) the lack of activity in the wilderness. I especially know that Omi and the staff are doing everything they can to improve Alora in every aspect.

2. I totally agree with you - As you said, when it comes to pking the skill gap is massive which makes it extremely hard for new players to get into it(know this from personal experience lol). Unfortunately this isn’t something easily solved (or even possible to be solved at all). With that being said, it is always possible to learn (in my opinion, from personal experience of learning how to pk on alora), so maybe if people were further encouraged/made aware of the benefits/fun to be had in pking, they would be willing endure the struggle. I really don’t know— I’m basically just throwing up ideas lol. Also, obviously wanting to pk or not comes down to personal taste and of course it simply isn’t for some people, regardless of how much encouragement they receive.

3. Touching on the point of PK scene not being what it was back in the day, i also agree, this is pretty much inarguable. This might simply indicate that there is no ‘solution’ or even really a ‘problem’ in the first place— the wild simply isn’t the same anymore. Maybe I just made this post cuz I was feeling nostalgic lol.
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I usually have one main thought when this topic is mentioned, and its to see how other servers are able to keep their pvp scene active and implement similar styles to alora.

 

 

 

Omicron seems very responsive to any and all suggestions pvpers have on alora so thats very nice to see. 

 

 

edit: also feedback from current pkers would help alot as pvp on here needs to workout kinks with damage/defence/how accurate certain weaps/styles are etc


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Posted 28 November 2019 - 07:05 PM #5

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I would like to say PvP does need some help growing. But Alora has a lot of people who do not really pk it isnt the fact there isnt a update it is just not really seen much anymore. I love pking and would love a revive of wildy tourney or something but no need to worry the staff are always trying to improve the game.


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Posted 28 November 2019 - 09:30 PM #6

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This topic gets posted here a lot, and the community usually offers the same vague suggestions that you've made above. This isn't an attack on the post, it just reminds me of more of the same. I think Immortal Fox addressed your suggestions pretty well.

 

DMM would be cool to see, and it might generate some hype both from the OG pkers that have left the server as well as pkers who have never given Alora a shot.


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Posted 28 November 2019 - 11:09 PM #7

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We've all seen PVP related updates that really didn't make any much difference in the community. 

Pkers on this server are a small minority and not very welcoming. I've never tried Pking here to be fair but i think it's not so much fun to get grouped by max geared pkers when you've just joined the server or trying pking for the first time. 

 

I'm all for updates to Wildy if it's going to generate more interest in it. Just don't like to waste the Devs time.


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Posted 29 November 2019 - 01:22 AM #8

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We've all seen PVP related updates that really didn't make any much difference in the community. 

Pkers on this server are a small minority and not very welcoming. I've never tried Pking here to be fair but i think it's not so much fun to get grouped by max geared pkers when you've just joined the server or trying pking for the first time. 

 

I'm all for updates to Wildy if it's going to generate more interest in it. Just don't like to waste the Devs time.

Yeah I've only ever met like 2 or 3 pkers that I could tolerate on Alora, and I guess that's not really something anyone can change.

 

And yeah, basically as sycamore said, the suggestions I listed in op were obviously super vague, and we've all seen them or something resembling them before, so I totally agree that it'd be dumb to waste the Devs time with those ideas and others like them. I guess I was just hoping other people had better ideas ideas than me lol. 


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